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Niagara Falls Daredevil Museum and Ramses I
Posted By: Charles Pope In Response To: The mummy of Ramses I (Oscar Calle)
Date: Friday, 8 November 2002, at 4:05 p.m.
"Museum says mummy is King Rameses"
by John Harlow, Los Angeles and Steve Negus, Cairo
http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2001/10/07/stifgnusa02001.html
(no longer posted on the web)SCIENTISTS at a museum in America are convinced that a hitherto anonymous mummy may turn out to be the long-lost remains of King Rameses I, the founder of one of Egypt's most famous dynasties. In a foretaste of possible battles to come, however, Egyptian officials have said that if the discovery is confirmed, they will want Rameses back.
The king's body is believed to have been stolen from his tomb shortly after his death more than 3,000 years ago. But Egyptologists at the Michael C Carlos Museum in Atlanta, Georgia, are increasingly convinced he is among nine mummies it bought two years ago for £1.5m from the Niagara Falls Daredevil Museum. The nine had been brought to Canada in 1861 by an American who had apparently acquired them from grave robbers.
X-rays of the mummies showed that one bore a striking resemblance to the family of rulers known as the 19th dynasty. The mummy thought to be Rameses will not take pride of place in the Atlanta museum, however, unless DNA tests on his teeth match him with the mummies of his children in Cairo.
The Egyptian authorities may still block such tests. Earlier this year they prevented Japanese experts from extracting DNA from Tutankhamen on the grounds of "national security"; one Egyptian magazine suggested it was because they feared Israel would use the tests to suggest the boy pharaoh was related to Hebrew patriarchs.
Rameses was born in the flourishing Nile delta in about 1350 BC. The son of a local troop commander, he did not have royal blood. But when the childless pharaoh Horemheb fell mortally ill, Rameses was the logical strongman to succeed him. He ruled for only a year, but during that time he decorated the massive temple complex at Karnak, reopened the lost turquoise mines in the Sinai desert and took on Egypt's arch enemies, the Hittites, in a serious of brief but bloody campaigns.His supposed discovery has caused great excitement among Egyptologists. Catharine Roehrig, Egyptian curator at the Metropolitan Museum in New York, said Rameses I was an important figure in the history of the ancient world.
"He brought stability to the region, and his family, especially his grandson, are probably the great kings mentioned in the Bible in the stories of Moses," she said. "That's why so many modern people are fascinated by the 19th dynasty."
Peter Lacovara, the curator of ancient art at the Atlanta museum, said he and his colleagues had been convinced of the identity of mummy No 1999.1.4 when he looked at the x-rays. "There are striking family resemblances," he said.
The mummy thought to be Rameses was about 5ft 5in tall, balding and, most distinctively, had the large fleshy nose known as the "Ra hook-nose" that runs through the 150 years that his family ruled Egypt. Inside his wrappings, his arms are crossed and his toes separated by gold plates, a ceremony reserved for royalty.
Representatives of the Egyptian government have been invited to Alanta this weekend, but it could prove a delicate occasion. Egypt lays claim to any antiquity that was taken from it illegally. "If this is Rameses I, then he is the greatest pharaoh not on his native soil and we would want both him and the other mummies back in Cairo," said one Egptyian diplomat. "We want all stolen artefacts returned, and these were not exported legally."
The Atlanta millionaires who raised the money to buy the mummies may not agree. "If the Egyptians ask for Rameses back, do not mind the rest of them, there will be hell to pay," said one local observer. "You do not rob a Southern businessman like that."
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- The mummy of Ramses I
Oscar Calle -- Tuesday, 5 November 2002, at 5:45 a.m.- Re: The mummy of Ramses I
el-REB -- Tuesday, 5 November 2002, at 9:16 p.m.- Re: The mummy of Ramses I
Oscar Calle -- Wednesday, 6 November 2002, at 7:15 a.m.- Re: The mummy of Ramses I
el-REB -- Wednesday, 6 November 2002, at 5:45 p.m.- Re: The mummy of Ramses I
el-REB -- Wednesday, 6 November 2002, at 9:17 p.m.- Re: The mummy of Ramses I
el-REB -- Thursday, 7 November 2002, at 7:37 p.m.- Ancient Texts from Egypt
Oscar Calle -- Thursday, 7 November 2002, at 11:25 p.m.- Something is still Wrong?
EL-REB -- Monday, 9 December 2002, at 9:10 p.m.- Sethi I was Amenophis
Oscar Calle -- Monday, 9 December 2002, at 11:45 p.m.- Re: Sethi I was Amenophis
EL-REB -- Tuesday, 10 December 2002, at 9:56 p.m. - Hold on, Espere un momento
Charles Pope -- Wednesday, 11 December 2002, at 4:08 p.m.- Re: Hold on,Sesostris?
EL-REB -- Wednesday, 11 December 2002, at 8:52 p.m. - Re: Hold on, Espere un momento
Oscar Calle -- Thursday, 12 December 2002, at 1:27 a.m.- Seti, Sesostris and Such
Charles Pope -- Thursday, 12 December 2002, at 9:31 a.m. - Re:Em-Per-Ra
EL-REB -- Thursday, 12 December 2002, at 6:30 p.m.- The Modesty of Ramses the Great
Charles Pope -- Thursday, 12 December 2002, at 8:23 p.m.- Re: The Modesty of Charles the Great
EL-REB -- Thursday, 12 December 2002, at 8:43 p.m.
- Re: The Modesty of Charles the Great
- The Modesty of Ramses the Great
- Seti, Sesostris and Such
- Re: Hold on,Sesostris?
- El-Calle
EL-REB -- Wednesday, 11 December 2002, at 7:51 p.m. - Re: Sethi I was Amenophis, who was Rameses?
Ronald L. Hughes -- Friday, 10 January 2003, at 9:05 p.m.- Manetho’s Eighteenth Dynasty
Oscar Calle -- Sunday, 12 January 2003, at 3:55 a.m.
- Manetho’s Eighteenth Dynasty
- Re: Sethi I was Amenophis
- Sethi I was Amenophis
- Something is still Wrong?
- Ancient Texts from Egypt
- Amenhotep son of Hapu
Charles Pope -- Friday, 8 November 2002, at 7:16 p.m.- Re:Missing Left Eye
el-REB -- Friday, 8 November 2002, at 8:27 p.m. - Re: Amenhotep son of Hapu
EL-REB -- Tuesday, 12 November 2002, at 5:42 p.m.- Re: Amenhotep son of Hapu
Charles Pope -- Tuesday, 12 November 2002, at 8:20 p.m.- Re: Amenhotep son of Hapu
EL-REB -- Tuesday, 12 November 2002, at 9:12 p.m.- Re: Amenhotep son of Hapu
lluisa -- Tuesday, 11 February 2003, at 1:12 a.m.- Re: Amenhotep son of Hapu
Charles Pope -- Friday, 14 February 2003, at 10:00 p.m.
- Re: Amenhotep son of Hapu
- Re: Amenhotep son of Hapu
- Re: Amenhotep son of Hapu
- Re: Amenhotep son of Hapu
- Re:Missing Left Eye
- Re: The mummy of Ramses I
- Re: The mummy of Ramses I
Ronald L. Hughes -- Monday, 6 January 2003, at 3:15 p.m.- Re: The mummy of Ramses I
lluisa -- Saturday, 15 February 2003, at 1:35 a.m.
- Re: The mummy of Ramses I
- Re: The mummy of Ramses I
- Re: Set and Seth
Ronald L. Hughes -- Monday, 6 January 2003, at 3:11 p.m.- Re: Set and Seth
Oscar Calle -- Tuesday, 7 January 2003, at 3:45 a.m.- Re: Set and Seth
Ronald L. Hughes -- Sunday, 12 January 2003, at 12:56 p.m.
- Re: Set and Seth
- Re: Set and Seth
- Re: The mummy of Ramses I
- Re: The mummy of Ramses I
- Niagara Falls Daredevil Museum and Ramses I
Charles Pope -- Friday, 8 November 2002, at 4:05 p.m. - Another Article about the Niagara Museum Mummy
Charles Pope -- Friday, 8 November 2002, at 4:09 p.m. - Third Article
Charles Pope -- Friday, 8 November 2002, at 4:14 p.m.- Fourth Article
Charles Pope -- Friday, 28 February 2003, at 10:29 a.m.- Archaeology Magazine Article
Charles Pope -- Friday, 7 March 2003, at 6:30 p.m.
- Archaeology Magazine Article
- Fourth Article
- Analysis of Articles
Charles Pope -- Friday, 8 November 2002, at 4:48 p.m.- Re: Analysis of Articles
el-REB -- Friday, 8 November 2002, at 6:06 p.m.
- Re: Analysis of Articles
- Lineage of Ramses I and Horemheb
Charles Pope -- Friday, 8 November 2002, at 7:02 p.m.- Re: Lineage of Ramses I and Horemheb
el-REB -- Friday, 8 November 2002, at 7:52 p.m. - Re: Lineage of Ramses I and Horemheb
Oscar Calle -- Saturday, 9 November 2002, at 7:13 a.m.- 19th Dynasty Emphasis on Seth & Amen-Ra
Charles Pope -- Sunday, 10 November 2002, at 11:37 a.m. - "The Mother of All Fathers?"
Charles Pope -- Sunday, 10 November 2002, at 11:39 a.m.- "Bearer of the Name"
EL-REB -- Monday, 11 November 2002, at 6:35 p.m. - Amenhotep III's officials
Oscar Calle -- Saturday, 16 November 2002, at 6:07 a.m.- Three Men, or One with Three Wives?
Charles Pope -- Sunday, 17 November 2002, at 12:39 p.m. - Name Variants in the Tomb of Ramose
Charles Pope -- Wednesday, 20 November 2002, at 8:53 a.m.
- Three Men, or One with Three Wives?
- "Bearer of the Name"
- 19th Dynasty Emphasis on Seth & Amen-Ra
- Re: Lineage of Ramses I and Horemheb
James Forst -- Thursday, 5 February 2004, at 8:57 p.m.
- Re: Lineage of Ramses I and Horemheb
- Ramses I is back home
Oscar Calle -- Thursday, 30 October 2003, at 3:35 a.m. - Ramses Returns to Luxor?
Charles Pope -- Saturday, 9 December 2006, at 8:57 a.m.- "I once was lost,, but now I'm found, etc."
Ronald L. Hughes -- Thursday, 14 December 2006, at 2:44 p.m.- ... Was Blind But Now I See!
Charles Pope -- Thursday, 14 December 2006, at 5:32 p.m.
- ... Was Blind But Now I See!
- "I once was lost,, but now I'm found, etc."
- Re: The mummy of Ramses I
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