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Izates and Jesus

Posted By: Charles Pope
Date: Thursday, 14 December 2006, at 5:28 p.m.

In Response To: izates....herods (corsair522)

Good segway for Chapter 3 of Eisenman's new book where he revists Helen and her "only begotten" favorite eldest son Izates.

See these previous forum posts also:

www.domainofman.com/forum/index.cgi?read=2580

www.domainofman.com/forum/index.cgi?read=2966

I early speculated (in the first post above) that Izates was an identity of Jesus. According to Eisenman Izates disappears from the scene around 55-58 AD. However, this was the approximate date that Aristobulus III (Herodian identity of Jesus) was appointed king in Armenia (including Edessa). Izates younger brother Monobazus is thought to have succeeded Izates, but doesn't seem to do anything important until 63 AD, the approximate time of Aristobulus III's death.

Monobazus would appear to be an identity of John son of Zebedee, who came to the forefront after the deaths of Jesus and James. However, Helen (an identity of Mary mother of Jesus) had at least four other sons besides Jesus, so even if it is agreed that Jesus was her "favorite", the identity of Monobazus is less certain.

The identity of Agbarus, who assumed the role of Abraham, is equally challenging. Earlier I speculated that he was Simon Magus (Herodian Tigranes), who became an infamous partner of Helen. Recall that Abraham (Djehuty) was also a Simeon/Thoth, and that he had a secondary Osiris typecasting. Helen becomes "Sarah" and her son Izates is adopted by Agbarus even as Isaac son of Sarah was adopted by Abraham.

Messages In This Thread

• izates....herods
  corsair522 -- Tuesday, 12 December 2006, at 5:23 p.m.
  • Izates and Jesus
    Charles Pope -- Thursday, 14 December 2006, at 5:28 p.m.
    • why negative spin
      corsair522 -- Sunday, 17 December 2006, at 7:56 p.m.
      • The Eisenman Bias
        Charles Pope -- Sunday, 17 December 2006, at 9:11 p.m.
        • missing link
          corsair522 -- Tuesday, 19 December 2006, at 4:05 p.m.
          • Father of Izates
            Charles Pope -- Tuesday, 19 December 2006, at 5:07 p.m.
            • wise man who knows his father
              corsair522 -- Wednesday, 20 December 2006, at 3:26 a.m.
              • Hoosier Daddy
                Charles Pope -- Wednesday, 20 December 2006, at 7:10 a.m.
                • what am i missing ??
                  corsair522 -- Wednesday, 20 December 2006, at 5:56 p.m.
                  • A Green by Any Other Name
                    Charles Pope -- Wednesday, 20 December 2006, at 6:52 p.m.
                    • those history books
                      corsair522 -- Thursday, 21 December 2006, at 4:28 p.m.
                      • Archaeology of Adiabene?
                        Charles Pope -- Thursday, 21 December 2006, at 7:20 p.m.
                        • Re: Archaeology of Adiabene?
                          Aga -- Friday, 22 December 2006, at 7:44 p.m.
            • helena in toldoth
              corsair522 -- Wednesday, 20 December 2006, at 3:31 a.m.
              • "The Helen"
                Charles Pope -- Wednesday, 20 December 2006, at 7:02 a.m.

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