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Solomon, the Egyptian.
Posted By: tim In Response To: Invented "Israeliteness"? (Helge Harbard)
Date: Friday, 15 September 2006, at 7:01 a.m.
I confess that I am one of the loonies that believes that the egyptian dating schema is off by 400-500 years. I think David actually *is* Tuthmose I. I place Solomon at ca. 950bc. I generally follow Velikovsky's model as far as timing and the proofs that he supplies, but like many, I have taken it a step further. Read this ( http://www.varchive.org/ce/theses.htm ) for a summary of his theses on the subject. Next, after reading that, go here for an essay that I generally agree with http://www.specialtyinterests.net/david_abishag.html
Sorry about all the links but I've been writing alot and it saves us both time this way. So, I think the valley of the kings in egypt contains biblical patriarchs. And yes that does mean that I think the "exodus" under Akhnaton took place much later than believed by some.
It doesn't make me a bad person. Alot of Sagas and tales are really true. For example, I also think Erik's son Leif landed on the Cape and called it Vinland. Of course it helps that I've been out there to Noman's Island and seen the inscriptions myself. And seen the Boat pit at Follins Pond. I've also seen the Ogham scripts in Dennis, and Plymouth. And the Templar Shield at Mt. Hope, or Hop as Leif called it. Straumney's a nice place in the summer, if you can stand the crowds. In fact, you can't swing a dead cat where I live without bumping into something Viking. But alas, publishing on the subject is career suicide, so we do these things in our spare time, and talk about them over beers. Helge- I know that you know what I'm talking about here so I won't belabor the point.
Personally, I think Velikovsky's historical work is genius, but his cosmological work is pretty much crazy. The Rohls and Osmans of the world owe him a great debt. I presumed that Charles and Rohl were tipping their hats to him when they titled their works "A Test of Time"- velikovsky's controversial and famous tract)
This is precisely why the greek and assyrian records are so spotty and seemingly do not even confirm the existence of a united israel. They called it Phoenicia and Egypt. And those looking for it are searching periods which are far too ancient.
Baalbek, for example, has been identified with the ancient Dan, and the evidence is carved all over the place there, yet to make connections between biblical persona and actual persons is career suicide for archeologists, so they fumble around what they already know deep down without coming out and saying it. In fact, they recently found a Stela there which was inscribed "House of David"- but since it appeared too recent, it couldn't be "our David."
The old saw that there's no evidence for David or Solomon or even Israel in the tiny area of Palestine where they have looked is like saying " We've searched Rhode Island end to end and we haven't found any evidence of the United States".
I'd be happy to discuss this further if you like. Of course these are just my opinions, and I respect anyone who disagrees intelligently.
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tim -- Monday, 4 September 2006, at 7:22 p.m.- Opus Muses
Charles Pope -- Thursday, 7 September 2006, at 4:52 p.m.- ubi fumus, ibi ignis
tim -- Thursday, 7 September 2006, at 6:26 p.m.- Veni, Vidi, Vici
Charles Pope -- Friday, 8 September 2006, at 3:40 p.m.- Follow the money!
tim -- Friday, 8 September 2006, at 5:07 p.m.- Herod's Money
Charles Pope -- Friday, 8 September 2006, at 8:12 p.m.- I came to a fork in the road, so I took it.
tim -- Wednesday, 13 September 2006, at 9:43 p.m.- Israel and Phoenicia
Helge Harbard -- Thursday, 14 September 2006, at 6:42 a.m.- Re: Israel and Phoenicia
tim -- Thursday, 14 September 2006, at 3:52 p.m.- more on mithraism viz. early christianity
tim -- Thursday, 14 September 2006, at 7:35 p.m.- Invented "Israeliteness"?
Helge Harbard -- Friday, 15 September 2006, at 5:11 a.m.- Solomon, the Egyptian.
tim -- Friday, 15 September 2006, at 7:01 a.m.- ...Or Solomon the Judaized Egyptian?
Helge Harbard -- Friday, 15 September 2006, at 11:09 a.m.- Re: ...Or Solomon the Judaized Egyptian?
tim -- Friday, 15 September 2006, at 11:31 a.m. - Re: ...Or Solomon the Judaized Egyptian?
Heru -- Friday, 15 September 2006, at 12:29 p.m. - Solomon or Amenhotep III
Charles Pope -- Friday, 15 September 2006, at 6:42 p.m.- Re: Solomon or Amenhotep III
Titan -- Saturday, 16 September 2006, at 10:00 p.m.- Solon and Solomon
Charles Pope -- Saturday, 23 September 2006, at 7:08 p.m.- Solon, Solomon and peace
Titan -- Sunday, 24 September 2006, at 7:25 p.m.- Solon, Solomon and Shalom
Charles Pope -- Sunday, 24 September 2006, at 9:33 p.m.
- Solon, Solomon and Shalom
- Solon, Solomon and peace
- Solon and Solomon
- The Great Prince Of Peace
Helge Harbard -- Wednesday, 20 September 2006, at 2:51 a.m.
- Re: Solomon or Amenhotep III
- Re: ...Or Solomon the Judaized Egyptian?
- ...Or Solomon the Judaized Egyptian?
- Re: Invented "Israeliteness"?
Pete -- Monday, 18 September 2006, at 10:15 a.m.- Mystic Origins
Helge Harbard -- Friday, 22 September 2006, at 4:21 a.m.- Re: Mystic Origins
Pete -- Monday, 25 September 2006, at 9:31 a.m.
- Re: Mystic Origins
- Mystic Origins
- (Message Deleted by Poster)
H. Butler -- Tuesday, 19 September 2006, at 8:54 p.m.
- Solomon, the Egyptian.
- Invented "Israeliteness"?
- Re: Israel and Phoenicia
Ron -- Thursday, 14 September 2006, at 8:11 p.m.
- more on mithraism viz. early christianity
- Re: More on Helge's Arsacid question
tim -- Friday, 15 September 2006, at 10:58 a.m.- I found the original
tim -- Friday, 15 September 2006, at 11:15 a.m. - Phraataces and Muses
Charles Pope -- Friday, 15 September 2006, at 6:35 p.m.- Phraataces and Phillip
Charles Pope -- Friday, 15 September 2006, at 9:47 p.m. - Phraataces and Malthace
Charles Pope -- Friday, 15 September 2006, at 10:28 p.m.- Parthia and the Tribe of Issachar
Charles Pope -- Saturday, 16 September 2006, at 9:28 p.m.- Re: Parthia, Gaul and Mauritania?
Ron -- Sunday, 17 September 2006, at 8:55 a.m.- Mauritania (a.k.a. Numibia)
Charles Pope -- Sunday, 17 September 2006, at 8:20 p.m.- Re: Mauritania (a.k.a. Numibia)
Ron -- Monday, 18 September 2006, at 8:43 p.m.- More on Mauritania
Charles Pope -- Monday, 18 September 2006, at 9:18 p.m.
- More on Mauritania
- Re: Mauritania (a.k.a. Numibia)
- Mauritania (a.k.a. Numibia)
- Re: Parthia, Gaul and Mauritania?
- Parthia and the Tribe of Issachar
- Phraataces and Phillip
- I found the original
- Re: Israel and Phoenicia
- Israel and Phoenicia
- I came to a fork in the road, so I took it.
- Follow the Firstborn
Charles Pope -- Saturday, 9 September 2006, at 10:24 a.m.- Re: Follow the Firstborn
Ron Hughes -- Tuesday, 19 September 2006, at 9:23 a.m.- Re: Follow the Firstborn
Ronald L. Hughes -- Friday, 6 October 2006, at 5:47 p.m.- Queenly Prerogative
Charles Pope -- Friday, 6 October 2006, at 7:55 p.m.
- Queenly Prerogative
- Re: Follow the Firstborn
- Re: Follow the Firstborn
- Alexander Helios, King of Parthia
Charles Pope -- Saturday, 9 September 2006, at 10:37 a.m. - Juba Jabber
Charles Pope -- Sunday, 10 September 2006, at 1:31 p.m.- Juba II, Father of "Prince Ptolemy"
Charles Pope -- Saturday, 16 September 2006, at 9:46 p.m. - Re: Juba Jabber
Ronald L. Hughes -- Wednesday, 24 January 2007, at 8:22 a.m.
- Juba II, Father of "Prince Ptolemy"
- Rawlinson-free
tim -- Saturday, 16 September 2006, at 10:53 a.m.
- Herod's Money
- Follow the money!
- Socrates and Shakespeare
Charles Pope -- Tuesday, 17 October 2006, at 5:08 p.m.- Plethon / Pletho and Plato?
Ronald Hughes -- Wednesday, 18 October 2006, at 6:13 a.m. - Re: Socrates and Shakespeare
tim -- Wednesday, 18 October 2006, at 1:27 p.m.
- Plethon / Pletho and Plato?
- Veni, Vidi, Vici
- ubi fumus, ibi ignis
- Opus Muses
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