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Helen and Jotape
In Response To: Iotape de Commagne ()

Cher Magdalena,

For the benefit of the other (Franklish) readers, the relavant passage in Josephus is:

"As to Alexander, the son of Herod the king, who was slain by his father, he had two sons, Alexander and Tigranes, by the daughter of Archelaus, king of Cappadocia. Tigranes, who was king of Armenia, was accused at Rome, and died childless; Alexander had ason of the same name with his brother Tigranes, and was sent to take possession of the kingdom of Armenia by Nero; he had a son, Alexander, who married Jotape, (17) the daughter of Antiochus, the king of Commagena; Vespasian made him king of an island in Cilicia."

http://www.ccel.org/j/josephus/works/ant-18.htm

We discussed this in a previous post (copied below):
www.domainofman.com/forum/index.cgi?read=4320

The key phrase is, "Alexander had a son of the same name with his brother Tigranes". The correct interpretation of this now appears to be: "Alexander [son of Herod the Great] had a son [also called Alexander] of the same name with his brother Tigranes". In other words, both sons of Alexander son of Herod the Great became kings of Armenia under the traditional Armenian king-name of Tigranes. We are not told when the first Tigranes was accused in Rome, only that the second, Alexander, was appointed during the reign of Nero. In fact, both brothers could have been ruling in Armenia at the same time.

By sorting out the double-speak of Josephus, it can then be discerned that there are three successive Alexanders. The first is Alexander son of Herod the Great. The second is Alexander son of Alexander, who is also called Aristobulus (III) and Tigranes (II) of Armenia. This second Alexander has another son named Alexander, who marries Jotape. However, Josephus has already told us that Aristobulus III (Jesus) had other children by his wife Salome (Mary Magdalene). This is the critical family in terms of understanding later "Grail history". What also now surfaces is that this is also the key to understanding subsequent Roman history.

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