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Re: Follow the Firstborn
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In my response to Charles post, it seems I made a few errors!

First of all the "right" I referred to is actually most commonly called "first nights". Interestingly, in a web site I found, the entire acceptance of such a thing actually happening has, at least in some circles of academia, been demoted to mere fantasy!

Secondly, it appears, in mere reading that I have or might have mistakenly used the word "primogeniture" as meaning "first nights" whereas it actually means those persons who are the "first born" and thus have "first rights" to inheritance, for example.

It appears that academia has been unable to find any documentation of this right called "first nights" ever actually having been used or found in reality!

But, just because most of academia does not recognize such a thing does that mean we have to agree with them? I rather think that we do not have to agree with the establishment on this point, since it might well explain a lot about the ancient history we mostly discuss.

Certainly if a king, prince or tyrannt actually ever had such a thing called "first night" as a privilige, then any child born of his union to a woman would have some form of "primogeniture" within the realm!

So, in the case whereby a male was the one to use this right, then a child born about nine months after the act took place could have a claim to being the son of the person with the "right" itself, and, maybe it would be connected to the familial power of the mother's family that might decide the power of this child. Certainly if the child possessed some distinctive feature distinctive to the royal personage, then his claim might well be better leveraged to obtain power.

We might well consider the above scenerio is quite like the Biblical story of Sarah and Haggar, whereby the child of the better placed mother receives the inheritance of the father, while the lessor placed child, although technically the one with "primogeniture" is effectively banned from the kingdom or realm of the person in power. Other Biblical stories show similar signs or "stage direction", when the person with "primogeniture" is cheated out of the rightful blessing or inheritance.

Certain also is that in Chjarle's grand stage design, the players must follow the script, and it is quite likely that the ruling powers of Egypt,or Mesopatamia, etc., followed the same patterns while taking on the persona of another.

What might be even more interesting, if we can still assume that "first night" ever did apply to royalty, then we need to assume that during the rule of a female, then she also could take advantage of the same situations! Especially in an era where those in real power were women or a matriarchial society, this would provide here with extreem advantages. She could thus claim or use her "right" when the timing was right and she was ovulating! To assume ancient personages did not know of such things is demeaning to them and us. And with good luck, especially if she could also arrange the marriages in the first place, she could pick and chose the mate of her choice as well as give some insurance that the father of her child, the one with "primogeniture", had the connections she needed or desired!

Maybe, if Charles considers my speculation he might find us some other examples whereby my theory might work?

Maybe others of you may see similar examples?

Regards,

Ron

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