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Re: 70 Year Sojourns in Babylon, or France?
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Thanks for your kind response! And I see your point, at least, to a point!

Sources refer to Belus like this;

""Belus Fortunae rector, Menisque Magister."

Belus, signifying the Syrian Bel of Apamaea (Driver). Canaanitish place-names also attest the prevalence of the cult, as Baal-gad, at the foot of Hermen (Joshua 11:17; 12:7; 13:5); Migdal-gad, possibly Mejdel near Askalon (Joshua 15:37); Gaddi and Gaddiel (Numbers 13:10). In Talmudic literature the name of Gad is frequently invoked (compare McCurdy in Jewish Encyclopedia, V, 544). Indeed the words of Leah in Genesis 30:11 may refer not to good fortune or luck but to the deity who was especially regarded as the patron god of Good Fortune (compare Kent, Student's Old Testament, I, 111). Similar beliefs were held among the Greeks and Romans, e.g. Hor. Sat. ii.8, 61:

".... Fortuna, quis est crudelior in nos te deus?"

Cic. N.D. iii.24, 61:

"Quo in genere vel maxime est Fortuna numeranda."

The question has also an astronomical interest. Arabic tradition styled the planet Jupiter the greater fortune, and Venus the lesser fortune. Jewish tradition identified Gad with the planet Jupiter, and it has been conjectured that Meni is to be identified with the planet Venus."

And this;

"Aegyptus
ज्ञानकोश: - The Indological Knowledgebase

This article is about the Aegyptus from Egyptian mythology. For the Book of Abraham reference, see Egyptus.

In Greek mythology, Aegyptus, or properly A�ptos in Greek ("supine goat"), was the king of Egypt (which took its name from him), the son of Belus and father of fifty sons who were all but one murdered by the fifty daughters of Aegyptus' twin brother, Danaus.

Aegyptus commanded that his sons marry the Danaides and Danaus fled to Argos, ruled by King Pelasgus. When Aegyptus and his sons arrived to take the Danaides, Danaus gave them to spare the Argives the pain of a battle. However, he instructed his daughters to kill their husbands on their wedding night. Forty-nine followed through, but one, Hypermnestra refused because her husband, Lynceus, honored her wish to remain a virgin. Danaus was angry with his disobedient daughter and threw her to the Argive courts. Aphrodite intervened and saved her. Lynceus later slew Danaus as revenge for the death of his brothers. Lynceus and Hypermnestra founded the lineage of Argive kings (the Danaan Dynasty). In some versions of the legend, the Danaides were punished in the underworld by being forced to carry water through a jug with holes, or a sieve, so that the water always leaked out."

And Wikipedia says;

"Belus (Greek Βήλος) the Egyptian is in Greek Mythology a son of Poseidon by Libya. He was a King of Egypt and father of Aegyptus and Danaus and (usually) brother to Agenor."

And this;

"Apollodorus (2.1.4) claims that Aegyptus and Danaus were twins and that their mother was Anchinoe (otherwise unknown) and that she was daughter of the river Nile. He says that it was Euripides who added Cepheus and Phineus as additional sons of Belus. Belus ruled in Egypt, and Agenor ruled over Sidon and Tyre in Phoenicia. Aegyptus ruled over Egypt and Arabia, and Danaus ruled over Libya. Apollodorus also claims that Agenor was Belus' twin brother.

According to Pherycides (3F21) Belus also had daughter named Damno who married her uncle (Belus' brother) Agenor and bore to him Phoenix and two daughters named Isaie, and Melia, these becoming wives respectively to their cousins Aegyptus and Danaus sons of Belus.

In the Eoiae (see Hesiod) Belus was also the father of a daughter named Thronia on whom Hermaon, that is Hermes, fathered Arabus, presumably the eponym of Arabia.

Some sources make Belus father of the Lamia.

A unique alternate tradition

Nonnus (Dionysiaca 3.287f) makes Belus the father of "as many as five", namely Phineus, Phoenix, Agenor (identified as the father of Cadmus), Aegyptus, and Danaus, though Nonnus elsewhere (2.686) makes Phineus to be Cadmus' brother. Nonnus has Cadmus identify Belus as "the Libyan Zeus" and refer to the "new voice of Zeus Asbystes", meaning the oracle of Zeus Ammon at Asbystes. (Is the god Baal Hammon of Carthage part of this mix?)

Belus and Bel Marduk
Diodorus Siculus (1.27.28) claims that Belus founded a colony on the river Euphrates and appointed the priests whom the Bablyonians call Chaldeans who like the priests of Eygypt are exempt from taxation and other service to the state and who practice astrology. Pausanias (4.23.10) in speaking of Heracles Manticulus being so called because a certain Manticlus founded a temple of Heracles for the Messenians, cites as similar cases that Zeus Ammon in Libya and Zeus Belus in Babylon are named respectively from a shepherd-founder named Ammon and from Belus son of Libya. This supposed connection between Belus of Egypt and Zeus Belus (the god Marduk) is likely to be more learned speculation than genuine tradition. Pausanias seems to know nothing of supposed connection between Belus son of Libya and Zeus Ammon that Nonnus will later put forth as presented just above.

Belus and Baal
Modern writers tend to speculate on a connection between Belus and one or another god who bore the common northwest Semitic title Baal."

And, Answers.com says this;

Belus
Belus in Latin or Belos in accurate Greek transliteration is one of:

People and deities
Baal: a title ("lord") in northwest Semitic languages, often applied to particular gods.
Bel: a title ("lord") in Akkadian, especially applied to the Babylonian god Marduk but also used of other gods.
Belus (Babylonian): the Greek Zeus Belos and Latin Jupiter Belus as translations of the Babylonian god Bel Marduk or an euhemerized version of that god.
Belus (Assyrian): an ancient king of Assyria in classical, legendary history on the edge of Greek mythology.
Belus (Egyptian) (sometimes called Belus I): in Greek mythology the son of Poseidon by Libya, King of Egypt, and father of the eponymous Aegyptus and Danaus.
Belus II. See Dido. In Virgil's Aeneid (and some later works) he is king of Tyre and father of Dido, Pygmalion of Tyre, and Anna. As such this Belus is to be equated with the historical King Matan I of Tyre.
Belus (Lydian). See Omphale. He was a grandson of Heracles and ancestor of the Heraclid dynasty in Lydia according to Herodotus.
Belenus, a Celtic god; his name is sometimes written "Belus".

Geography
Belus (mountain), a mountain in Syria.
Belus River, a river in Israel."

But no where is the true identity of Belus ever agreed upon or possibly it was never known?

In any event, just the name itself leads one to try and figure a meaning, so possibly it meant "beautiful" or "handsome" or possibly, "the bringer of bells", etc.

And, another Wikipedia site says;

"Belus (Assyrian)
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Agasaya, Bel
Qingu

Belus or Belos in classical Greek or classical Latin texts (and later material based on them) in an Assyrian context refers to one or another purportedly ancient and historically nonexistent Assyrian king, such king in part at least an euhemerization of the Babylonian god Bel Marduk.

Belus most commonly appears as the father of Ninus who otherwise mostly appears as the first known Assyian king. Ctesias provides not information about Ninus' parentage. But already in Herodotus we find a Ninus son of Belus among the ancestors of the Heraclid dynasty of Lydia though here Belus is strangely and uniquely made a grandson of Heracles. See Omphale for discussion.

A fragment by Castor of Rhodes preserved only in the Armenian translation of Eusebius of Caesarea makes Belus king of Assyria at the time when Zeus and the other gods fought first the Titans and then the giants. Castor says Belus was considered a god after his death but that he does not know how many years Belus reigned.

Belus elsewhere is a vague, ancestral figure.

In those versions of the tale of Adonis which make Adonis the son of Theias or Thias the King of Assyria, this Theias or Thias is the son of Belus.

Ovid's Metamorphoses (4.212f) speaks of King Orchamus who ruled the Achaemenid cities of Persia as the 7th in line from ancient Belus the founder. But no other extent sources mentions either Orchamus or his daughters Leucothoe and Clytie.

Nonnus in his Dionysiaca (18.5f) brings in King Staphylus of Assyria and his son Botrys who entertain Dionysus, characters unknown elsewhere. Staphylus claims to be grandson of Belus.

Diodorus Siculus (6.5.1) introduces the Roman god Picus (normally son of Saturn) as a king of Italy and calls him brother of Ninus (and therefore perhaps son of Belus).

The odd connection between Picus and Ninus reappears in John of Niki's Chronicle (6.2f) which relates that Cronus was the first king of Assyria and Persia, that he married an Assyrian woman named Rhea and that she bore him Picus (who was also called Zeus) and Ninus who founded the city of Ninus (Nineveh). Cronus removed to Italy but was then slain by his son Zeus Picus because he devoured his children. Then Zeus became the father of Belus by his own sister. After the disappearance of Zeus Picus (who apparently reigned over both Italy and Assyria), Belus son of Zeus Picus succeeded to the throne in Assyria (and we later find Faunus who is elswhere always the son of Picus reigning in Italy before moving to Egypt and turning into Hermes Trismegistus father of Hephaestus!). Upon the death of Belus, his uncle Ninus became king and then married his own mother who was previouly called Rhea but is now reintroduced under the name of Semiramis. It is explained that from that time on this custom was maintained so that Persians think nothing of taking a mother or sister or daughter as a wife.

Later historians and chronographers make no mention of such stories. They either do not mention Belus at all or accept him as father of Ninus. They also dispute as to whether the Biblical Nimrod was the same as Belus or the father of Belus or a more distant ancestor of Belus.

It is likely that this Assyrian Belus should mostly not be distinguished from the euhemerized Bablyonian Belus. But some chronographers make a distinction between them. See Belus (Babylonian).

See also Bel (mythology) and Baal."

So, is it likely that Belus was Assyrian?

Regards,

Ron

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