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Dear Mr. Solomon...

As you quess or learned...

Turks of Anatolia/Turkey, partially (10-40%) are Hatti-Hurri-Urartu.
(I am including Anatolian Kurds to Turks in this draft calculations...)

My opinions after i read some historicalk documents... for now...

1 - Hatti : The oldest,the first people/public of Anatolia
Perhaps proto-turks perhaps others... Perhaps relatives of sumerians... (ANATOLIA about 5000-8000 years ago)

2 - Hitit Kingdom/Empire: (ANATOLIA about 5000-3500 years ago)

Other names: Hittit, Hatti, Eti

Capital: Hattusha, Hattush (Recently an ancient site in BOGAZKALE town in Corum Province near to current capital ANKARA, in middle Anatolia)

Throne/Dynasty: (my guess proto-Georgian or Georgian, Kafkas/KhafKhafsian origined elites... or warriors who are get throne in middle anatolia...)

Hitit/Hatti specialist, archeologs say:

* People was hatti but dynasty was not ethnic hatti, their anchestors were come from north-east anatolia...

* Dynasty's tribes are called their and tehir language as Nesha

* But Hitit dynasty always rule the country with royalty to domestic/countryowner hatti people. They never thought they are not hatti.

NOTE: In my opinion Hatti/Hiti dynasty is ancient georgians... I guess that due to name similarity: For exmaple: hattushili, Murshili from ancilent hatti, shakashvili from today's georgia.
Also armenians and other anatolian people not proper for name comparisons. Only georgians are phonetic similar...

IMPORTANT FACT: Today's Turkish Prime minister is also (muslim) Georgian! His anchestors came to eastern turkey from Georgia then his parents moved to the biggest trade center Istanbul. Just like as Hitti dynasty moving route from north-easth turkey to biggest trade center hattusha...

Hatti people today do not exist! (They had been asimilated by Rome culture and Anatolian Greek culture and time by time, descendants of Hatti people become Greek/Roum, later some of them became muslim, selchuk, ottoman and finally became turk.)

3- Hurri people:

Another crown/large/big people of hatti country... Between hatti people and Asyria/Asur people.

Hurri people do not exist today...

May be their descendant are Armenians or Kurds... I dont know...

But, My guess, Hurris are achestors or Urartu's and Karduks i thnik/guass these are anchestors of Anatolian Kurds...

the TIDAL in Bible who was Goim king...

Is TUDHALIYA in History, Hatti king with hurri name...

TUDHALIYA: Name of a mountain in Hurri region of Hatti kingdom...

On the hitit kingdom seal, with hittit hieroglyph:

"GRAND KING DUUT-AL-LIYA"

Attention to Mr. Charles Pope: Refer to Turkish Archeolog Ekrem Akurgal's: "Anatolian Civilizations History".
The first major resource (as one book) on Hittit/Hatti kingdom.

NOTE: Hittit hieroglyphs solved with using same documen'ts Asur/Asyrian translations/samples/matches. Hittis wre using hieroglyphs which use symbols/shapes of materials or animals.
The first syllable of names of shapes/symbols are the syllables of the result names/words on seals.

4- Urartu people: Eastern anatolia, Van lake region.

It is claimed that ancient Urartu kingdom is a proto/ancient Armenian kingdom.

But, powerly/mostly possible that, Urartu is proto-kurd or semi/partial-kurd kingdom and people who don exist today.

(Today's kurds have words/language and cultural remains from Urartu... I think/quess)

BUT we must regard that, At least, one of Hurri or Urartu people are anchestors of Armenians...

5- Real etnic turks...

Anchestors of today's Turkey's (Turkiye) Turks are Turkmen tribes

from Turkmenistan... Turkmenistan -> Iran -> Iraq -> Turkey/Turkiye (year 1071 = conquest of Anatolia from Bizans...)

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ANKARA word play by you:

within your word play rule:

ANK: the word pices abit lgiht ancien egypt origined.

ANK = ENKI -> A bit like sumerian or hittit God name

ANKA= Great epic bird: phoneix
RA= The Sun GOD...

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NOTE: Stages of ANKARA names...
Ankara: a village in macedonian Alexansdros time...
Name is not ankara/unknown but there is a famous place near Ankara: GORDION...
In Ottoman times:
Ank-Ra or Angora...

At the end yeras of Ottoman empire: Angora -> ANGARA

Since founding of Republic and being capital: ANGARA -> ANKARA

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Ankara may be thougt a holy name ...

But in my opinion (I know Ankara) Ankara is important for Turkish Republic but not important for history (except Ataturk's time, memorieals, Parlamento/TBMM buildings and ANITKABIR)

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If Any body look for a holy place before muslims and also before christians...

HATTUSHA (Bogazkale) is the holy center...
(Hattusa, Hattush)

(The capital of ancient Hittit/Hatti empire...)

In future...

HATTUSHA (or BOGAZKALE town region) will be more important...

Perhaps "Capital" again...

Look at Turkey's map. See/Find Ankara... Look at it's east for Corum-Yozgat. If you find them... Look at a detailed map...
You will se BOGAZKALE word/sign with ancient site sign...

That is the real/true center of Anatolia. The center of time/clock in Turkey... in future... again...

REGARDS...

ESASTEK