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Dear Solomon and other forum message readers;

i have to correct some crical worng almost lies about ramdan-fasting-changing religion subject.

You are under/targetof propapanga of anti-islam/turk...

AT FIRST I WILL CORRECT MR. SOLOMONS WRONG INFO:

Mr. Slomon has written/said at his last message:

In Turkey, i remember so called religious people of islam killed many people who didnt fast in the fasting month/Ramadzan. Also you cant feed yourself so easily if you dont fast in ramadzan month, some people are so respectless and primitive. You generally suffer because of this.

CORRECT/TRUE INFO:

Some ateists or over-secular people, was eating when others fasting...
Specially universcity students marxists/ateists against nationalasit or islamists...

Islamists or religious studensts aor bodies say/said "do not eat here when we are fasting... Go, eat in where as yourself, do not shown"
When others resist them and reply with sweardword (for example marxist/ateist student says to islamist student: fuck off! i eat, here! who are you! to ask me for that!, stupid islamist/faschist!"
It is mostly possible the fighting will be started and crown islmaists will kill minority ateists.

Most of ramadan events/killings occured afetr beginning fighting with bad words...

YOU CAN CONFIRM THAT, by asking to christian or jewish minority from Istanbul. Do not trust the words of Ateist turks or kurds... You can trusts words of religious christians about ramadan/fasting problem in Turkey.

Turkish people if know you are a christian or jewish, commonly, they will give permisison to eat in anaywhere even if you will be -eating- at fornt of their's eyes.

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as Second,
I AM CORRECTING FOLLOWING VERY (DANGEROUSLY) WRONG INFORMATON TOO:

HUghes said:"and I seem to remember one verse that said in effect "do not have a Jew or a Christian for a neighbor", and other words to the effect that "all Jews and Christians should be converted to Islam or be killed!"

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JUST TODAY, on the biggest newspaper of Turkey, Hurriyet, it is written:

Mehmet Nuri Yilmaz who is previous president (and islamic religion scientist) of RELIGION WORKINGS PRESIDENTSHIP OF TURKEY -with near english... Its turkish name: Diyanet ishleri bashkanligi), THER MOST CHARGED RELIGIONAL ORGANIZATION (also with giving FATVA charge) of TURKEY... SAYS...

(ofcource almost/all of turkish university islamic sciences faculty professors) SAY...

To return from Islam... to be christain or another...

IS NOT A SUBJECT OF DIE/EXECUTION PENALTY for/by QURAN verses...

The fact is such:

In the wars between christian/jews and muslims, if a muslim change its side -change his/her religion- and passes to opposite -non muslim, enemey to muslim- side... He/She will be killed... due to his/her treachhery...

MY ADDITION TO M.NURI YILMAZ'S WORDS:

So, it is the subject of war/jihad... With in peace environment, it is not a killing reason... But any bodies who goes out of Islam, will be externed/outed from Islamic community/society...

Because, Qouran says: "Islam is commanded to all of Worlds... If any body rejects Islam, his/her way will be onto hell! Do not be friend to/of rejectors/ignorants..."

QURAN HAS WORDS AGAINST CHRISTIANS AND JEWS specially for this:

"Book/Bible Owners are not trustworth for muslims! They say lies, they cheat muslims, they cause harms to muslims. SO, DO NOT TRUST DENIALS/REFUSALS who are refuse/deny Allah's verses/commands, Qouran."

The events since prophet Muhammed has/had shown, christiands and jews usually get alliance against Muslim like Today in Filistin and Iraq...
For example: almost/all of Europe have alliance with USA against Islamic jihad organization...

So, islamic jihad leaders also ordinary muslims think, as Qouran said to Muhammed's people in his time, as Qouran say/suggest to generally today's islam community by Its verses... It is harmpful to be near/friend to QAFEERs/KAFIRs (Denials/refusals)....

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AS RESULT: Chrisians and jews must promise and prove, they will not get/do alliance against muslims in any wars, with enemy feelings against Qouran's message...
(For example: You will not think to divide/destroy turkey, iran or arabian countries for they have/are autority/state which represents/members of Muhammed's Community...
About 90% turkish people believe that, christian europe want to divide/destroy turkey by using/supporting separatist kurds and fake/puppet kurdistan state in Turkey. Because of Turkey is the biggest -in power- Muslim people country...)

Also we can say, IF America will not change its very wrong and dangerous policiy in Middle East, it is mostly/powerly possible that, turkish nation will get/join allience against America in Middle East and Asea... Remember: Turkish army is 5th or 6th army of the world in power. For exmaple: Turkish army overcome France or germany or Italy or spain armies in one to one war... Equal or more powered armies aginst Turkish army are only: USA, RUSSIA, CHINA, perhaps India
except above 4 armies... There is not an army which will not be destroyed by Turkish army in a war in MiddleEast or West Asea...

So, the biggest error/mistake of Dajjal will be to fight against Turks... cause to turks-arabians jihad allience...

So, anti-propaganda against Turkish natioın and its religional status is not usefull, but dangareous only!
(If you try to divide/destroy muslim countries by using/supporting Kurds and other rebels... you will cause to allience between Al Qaeda organisation with turks and Iranians and other nationalist/islamist arabs...) And at the final of the big war... CHINA will be most winner!... (in Dajjal-Mahdi epic/story, at the final mahdi overcome Dajjal but, by time, yecuc-mecuc covers every where... Yecuc-mecuc are thought turks but today it is seem that china nation may/be the last winner yecuc-mecuc... After muslims,christians and jews destroy eachothers...)

Please do not regard propaganda against Islam and Muhammed...
The result never will be useful for western european and american people even if the propaganda arrives to the awaited result. ONLY CHINA WILL WIN AT THE LAST, and Europe and USA will lost that obstinacy war against muslim world, with maximum harm/hazard to their (european american) people and echonomy.

as Notradamus wrote, china army will come onto/untill Spain...
If you collapse Turkey, you open the way of china to till spain...

I say these to politicians... not to mr. Solomon, mr. huge or mr. pope...

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Mr. Solomon, Mr. Huges, Mr. Pope only think to:

When we think about religion conflicts/competitions, never we must think to collapse/destroy the one of this religions for winning... It is not possible to win the war by collapsing/invading/fighting/destroying a religion...

Only the science is a true altenative to any present religions...

(If you do not like Islam, took Science as only reference against/alternative to islam, do not think to stay in Christianty with Father,Son,Holy Spirit -TRINITY- belief... It is more clear that Muhammed's message at the beyond/advance of trinity as moral and logic...)

I don't want to continue with deep evaluations against trinity in christianty, i don't wat to disturb christions... I only way to say:

Follow the way of science to future... only...
(keep your beliefs only if you don't know their sciental or logic better alternatives.)

Regards...

ESASTEK

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