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Hi,

I'm glad you guys picked up on this point, because I was reading Charles' posts ("son of a do-gooder" and "notes on 2 Maccabbees")and I was afraid to monopolize the discourse, but I have alot to say.

Alot of these associations (i.e.: rome>wolf>benjamites) Ron and I touched on with our conversation about the language of the birds. Actually, I go as far as to say that virtually all of the Mediterranean civ's were the "Sons of Abraham". I don't think that the writer of Maccabbees was being disingenuous at all when he wrote that the Scyths(Maccabbees)and Trojans were brethren.

Genesis 49, the story of the of Israel/Jacob's blessing of the 12 tribes (13 if you count Ephraim and Manasseh separately) is the most insightful bit of history in the OT. It is often misunderstood, however, as "Is-ra-el" (that compound word gives it away doesn't it?-just like "Jah-Bal-On" which some of the brethren among us recognize) is often lumped together with "Judah" and "Levi", when in fact, they were never really reunited under "David" or anybody else by anything other than trade and political control. The stories of David and Solomon, beyond their archetypical forms, are a story of the implementation of modern feudal society, based upon tribute, conquest, and serfdom- but most importantly- the strict control of the state's monopoly on technology and scientific information. After the death of Solomon, in the OT, the terms "Israel" or "the House of Israel" refer to northern, non-"jewish" groups. "Judah" and the "House of Judah" refer to the Palestinian population where Judaism has its roots, and whose characters populate the rest of the OT. Masonry's fetishism with Genesis, Kings, and Chronicles reflects this knowledge- these are the most genuinely historical books in the OT. (Oh yeah, and they tell what the temple/tabernacle really was, but that's another post altogether)

Israel, meaning the other 10 tribes, probably weren't even "jewish", unless being so was politically expedient. At this point in our development as a species (meaning Jacob's time), the necessity of organization and specialization within the context of agricultural development and international trade, actually meant these forms of repressive social control (slavery religions) actually led to a higher standard of living for the people. These higher standards led to faster development of technology in the forms of agricultural productivity, architecture, metallurgy, world exploration, exploitation of natural resources, and warfare. And of course, population growth.

It's not that Abraham literally populated the planet, but rather the old forms of control were overthrown, their populations accomodated and absorbed, and their original identities lost as they they swapped an individual clan identity, for a state religion- complete with fetishism, religion, history and taboo.

This process and its mannerisms are well versed in "Totem and Taboo", by Freud, or for something a little more germane (I crack myself up), try this fascinating paper which I just read about our star spangled totem: http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/fcm/jaar.htm

Some of them adopted their ancestral heritage and iconography- like the Scyths- whose name we have derived from Issachar (SC-root iSaaCae, SCyths, etc ad nauseum). They recognized who and where they were: they were the descendents of Abraham, the hurrian, and this was their home country. They divided into three groups, known to the Greeks and Romans as Gauthae, Scythae, and Sacae.

Dan, who were always associated with seafaring, known to the Greeks as Danoi, the Egyptians as the "Sea Peoples", in the Black Sea they gave their name to all it's tributaries. In Ireland (Hibernia), they were the Tuatha de Danaan, and all the oldest island fortresses bear withness to their colonization: DuN Aonghasa and DuN Chonchuir. Together with Simeon they are the celtic legacy. They gave Britain the name of the Covenant: BR'TH. Who was the first "king"- BRuTus!

Gad. Gadiz. Cadiz- the first major port on the north side of the straits. Reason- Mining. Known as Tartessus in the OT. Iberian Peninsula. (interestingly: BaRaK = BaRCa= BaRCelona)

Carthage. = Kirjath (hebrew meaning: city (reverse the "jath" phonetically and it becomes very obvious)) Carthage was ruled by two "shofetim", which the Roman's translated as Suffetes. In either language it means "Judges". These dynastys: the Hannos and the Hamilcars, which ruled CaRThage, drew their typology from the Gideons and Sampsons of the OT, not suprisingly.

PaRThia: A true confederation, comprised of Ephraim, Manassah, Asher, Reuben, and Naphthali. I could go on all night about this one, but since I'm writing a book on it, you'll have to wait.

Cimmerian> Carmani> Germani

So the tribes were all over. I'm beginning to wonder whether any of the political or racial ditinctions that we dicuss here in the context of new testament typology have any real concrete applications.

Ptolemies/Flavians/Pisos/Maccabbees/Herodians/Arsacids, etc. all appear to be cousins of the same clan: not just in a broad sense, but as a result of the legacy of Alexander... who in a sense is the next Abraham!

Like the mythical Jacob/Israel, the mythical Jesus/Rome blesses the next twelve tribes for conquest and dominion under the new paradigm.

(which is the same as the old paradigm of course, but you know what I mean: this is the "new improved" slave religion where the rewards for obedience have been put off until the afterlife)

We've seen this before. The winner gets to write the history books.

History is merely the agreed upon set of lies. Just like today.

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