the revelation of tim

Ok, I just got back from Damascus, and I saw something on the road!

In my research of the “elite” religion (as opp. “state” religion, ref. my post), and rereading some of Eisenman’s passages about the “Star Prophecy” Pgs 23-24, 39, 45 etc (see index of James, Brother of Jesus). I put a few things together about the Arsacids that seems to weave together some of the scarlet threads in both the typology, and of some recent, highly insightful threads on the board. I think a have a “sticky” here.

Star Prophecy:

First I need to give a little background. The “Star Prophecy”, as we have noted, has to do with the “great drama”, as recorded in the constellations, and seemingly common to all players in our “terrestrial” drama of the Herodian Period, and indeed going back to Osiris and the Egyptian mysteries. Charles’ work has picked up on it over and over again. There are two central issues: The procession of the equinoxes, and the myth itself.


Books like Hamlet’s Mill do a great job with this, but since most of our readers here are well familiar with these issues, I’ll cut to the chase. The symbolism of typology, and the religious fetishes and iconography that accompany it, are a result of the precession of the solar equinoxes through the constellations. That is to say-for those who are not familiar with astronomy-what constellation the sun rises in during the two times a year when earth’s rotational plane is flat relative to the plane of our solar system. On a 30 degree division of the sky (i.e.: twelve houses), this takes approximately 2160 years to go from one sign to the next. It goes backwards through the order of our Signs (against the apparent east-west motion of the stars) Thus we can show through the progression from Leo (Sphinx), Cancer (Scarab), Gemini (Set-Horus), Taurus (the Golden Calf), Aries (the Ram), and finally to Pisces (the Fish). Here I’ve rendered the constellation names to make their association to our typographical work a little more explicit. All cultures seem to share these basic archetypical identifications.

{never mind that current archeological thinking does not allow for a 10600-8640 bc dating for the sphinx, I disagree, and I’m not going there now}

We can show how the major revolutions in religious iconography (at least at the “state” level) tend to reflect these transformations, and that they tend to occur at or around the actual transformation at the celestial “crossings.” It’s hard to mark the actual crossings, since each degree of precession takes about 72 years. This requires a level of observational precision that is even difficult today to say: “ok, today is the dawn of the age of Aquarius” (I love that song by the fifth dimension though).

Thus we have a timekeeper: the conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn happens about every 20 years, but in the same house as the current zodiacal age, only every (20*12) or 240 years. Thus the Magi noting the beginning of the new zodiacal age, and the “star in the east” (about 3 bc in Pisces)
(Why the Greeks gave Saturn the name chronos-the timekeeper)
(Helge-the “backwards” precession of the equinoxes, versus the “forward motion of the stars” is a parallel to the ‘backwards of Hebrew, versus the ‘forwards’ of Greek, especially due to the transposition of the number gematria)

OK, so in the Herodian period the typology is right there in your face, and indeed competing with one another, because everybody who was in the know (i.e.: within the sphere of the elite) - and who saw the cross as an opportunity to enshrine their dynasty as the object of slave-cult worship, by being the authors of the new “state” religion. And thus confer to their heirs “the divine right of Kings”

The story:

Author’s Note:
For those not acquainted with the Star prophecy. My favorite is E.W Bullinger, a descendent of the H. Bullinger of the Reformation period, but some may question why. He’s a bible apologist, writing in the Victorian era. Several later messianic Christian cults picked up on him, and he kind of holds the place that A. Crowley holds for the Thelema people. We have to remember, that his (Christian) interpretation of the myth was a prerequisite for being published during his period. I like the poetry of his interpretation, and that’s it-and I’m not alone. You can go to Joseph Campbell, De Santillana, or just about anybody in between and get the same story.

Here are Bullinger’s chapter headings in “The Witness of the Stars” 1893, and I think it about says it all, since everyone here is pretty smart and can fill in the blanks. We have to remember though that he starts the zodiac at Virgo-due to his interpretation as Biblical prophecy of the messiah- and our interests may disagree. I place the appropriate star prophecy for the crossing that took place in the Herodian era as Pisces, which of course, is an observable fact. For the illuminated Jewish tradition-the Magi, the Virgo myth is pre-Egyptian, and was probably played out on the archetypes of the Sons of Adam. The messiah of the star myth has a long, long way to go before we see his typology played out among the illuminati. What we are talking about is “the Redeemer”, and I think so were they.

Here is a link with the complete text: , although I want to make it perfectly clear that I do not endorse anything about this book, or anybody who may see fit to host the site. It just happens to be free at this site. I have removed Bullinger’s references to Christ’s first and second comings from the title text. Try to ignore all the “redeem and redeemers” a little bit. The story still comes through without it.

The First Book
the Redeemer
Chapter I
The Prophecy of the Promised Seed of the Woman:
VIRGO (The Virgin. A woman bearing a branch in her right hand and an ear of corn in her left). The Promised Seed of the woman.
1. COMA (The Desired. The woman and child). The Desired of all nations.
2. CENTAURUS (The Centaur with two natures, holding a spear piercing a victim). The despised sin offering.
3. BOOTES (a man walking bearing a branch called ARCTURUS, meaning the same). He cometh.
Chapter II
The Redeemer's Atoning Work
LIBRA (The Scales). The price deficient balanced by the price which covers.
1. CRUX, The Cross endured.
2. LUPUS, or VICTIMA, The Victim slain.
3. CORONA, The Crown bestowed.
Chapter III
The Redeemer's Conflict
SCORPIO (The Scorpion) seeking to wound, but itself trodden under foot.
1. SERPENS (The Serpent struggling with the man).
2. O-PHI-U-CHUS (The man grasping the serpent). The struggle with the enemy.
3. HERCULES (The mighty man. A man kneeling on one knee, humbled in the conflict, but holding aloft the tokens of victory, with his foot on the head of the Dragon). The mighty Vanquisher seeming to sink in the conflict.
Chapter IV
The Redeemer's Triumph
SAGITTARIUS (The Archer). The two-natured Conqueror going forth "Conquering and to conquer."
1. LYRA (The Harp). Praise prepared for the Conqueror.
2. ARA (The Altar). Consuming fire prepared for His enemies.
3. DRACO (The Dragon). The Old Serpent— Devil, cast down from heaven.

The Second Book
The Redeemed
Chapter I
Their Blessings Procured
CAPRICORNUS (The fish-goat). The goat of Atonement slain for the Redeemed.
1. SAGITTA (The Arrow). The arrow of God sent forth.
2. AQUILA (The Eagle). The smitten One falling.
3. DELPHINUS (The Dolphin). The dead One rising again.
Chapter II
Their Blessings Ensured
AQUARIUS (The Water-Bearer). The living waters of blessing poured forth for the Redeemed.
1. PISCIS AUSTRALIS (The Southern Fish). The blessings bestowed.
2. PEGASUS (The Winged Horse). The blessings quickly coming.
3. CYGNUS (The Swan). The Blesser surely returning.
Chapter III
Their Blessings in Abeyance
PISCES (The Fishes). The Redeemed blessed though bound.
1. THE BAND—, but binding their great enemy Cetus, the sea monster.
2. ANDROMEDA (The Chained Woman). The Redeemed in their bondage and affliction.
3. CEPHEUS (The King). Their Redeemer coming to rule.
Chapter IV
Their Blessings Consummated and Enjoyed
ARIES (The Ram or Lamb). The Lamb that was slain, prepared for the victory.
1. CASSIOPEIA (The Enthroned Woman). The captive delivered, and preparing for her husband, the Redeemer.
2. CETUS (The Sea Monster). The great enemy bound.
3. PERSEUS (The Breaker). Delivering His redeemed.

The Third Book
The Redeemer
Chapter I
Messiah, The Coming Judge of All the Earth
TAURUS (The Bull). Messiah coming to rule.
1. ORION, Light breaking forth in the person of the Redeemer.
2. ERIDANUS (The River of the Judge). Wrath breaking forth for His enemies.
3. AURIGA (The Shepherd). Safety for the Redeemed in the day of that wrath.
Chapter II
Messiah's Reign as Prince of Peace
GEMINI (The Twins). The twofold nature of the King.
1. LEPUS (The Hare), or THE ENEMY trodden under foot.
2. CANIS MAJOR (The Dog), or SIRIUS, the coming glorious Prince of Princes.
3. CANIS MINOR (The Second Dog), or PROCYON, the exalted Redeemer.
Chapter III
Messiah's Redeemed Possessions
CANCER (The Crab). The possession held fast.
1. URSA MINOR (The Lesser Bear). The lesser sheepfold.
2. URSA MAJOR (The Great Bear). The fold and the flock.
3. ARGO (The Ship). The redeemed pilgrims safe at home.
Chapter IV
Messiah's Consummated Triumph
LEO (The Lion). The Lion of the Tribe of Judah aroused for the rending of the Enemy.
1. HYDRA (The Serpent). That old Serpent— Devil, destroyed.
2. CRATER (The Cup). The cup of Divine wrath poured out upon him.
3. CORVUS (The Crow, or Raven). Birds of prey devouring him.

So start backwards with Leo, read the story, and tell me you don’t see everything we talk about on this board starting with Adam. But that’s Typology for you- “as above so below”
As to the Herodian era, it’s clearly Pisces, although some people who developed the iconography, clearly did not know which story to tell.
(Helge- did the greeks not “get it”? i.e.: you’re supposed to tell the story backwards)
That is why the Magi didn’t come looking to Herod for the Messiah, but rather “he who is born King.” “the Redeemer.” I don’t think any of these people were looking for the Virgo messiah. (That is what is so confusing about guys like Josephus and Rabbi Yohannan (see Eis. Pg.23-24): why they would “sell their faith” so cheaply. They sold a fairy tale that wasn’t really relevant to the real dynastic drama. And both said clearly that Vespasian WAS the Messiah. But perhaps that becomes clearer now that they were using the “state” religion; complete with its superstitions and lore which in the Roman’s polytheistic eyes were very real and scary gods who they could win over, and perhaps placate; why then would they act as they did? It bugs everybody who knows about it.

To save their skins, yes- and yet surprisingly remain true to their personal faith which was at another level entirely. They weren’t really giving up the “game.” And now it becomes clear that Paul- who is looking pretty smart right about now- had a clue after all. I’ll get to that a little later.

Language equivalence:

Helge and others, myself included, have been riffing recently about, namely that due to various transpositions of linguistics between alphabets and spoken languages, (the various appellations such as “brother of, Bar soandso, soandso of Nazareth etc.) the characters as presented by the Roman, Gospel, Semitic, and Islamic traditions are totally unreliable for identification. I sometimes wish Eisenman had applied his genius for nomenclature in a different way, as when I was re-reading the sections to which Charles referred me to, it gets dizzying and ceases (for me) to be productive. There is another way that can get us to actual human actors on the stage so we don’t have to bog down with questions like “is Silas, the Babylonian, the same as….”

The Revelation:

Charles, you know that I am fascinated with two things right now- the Arsacid dynasty, and the possibility of a pre-existing text (By which I’m following Eisenman’s implied assertion that “Jesus” of the gospel narrative, lived prior to this period in his entirety, and that the problematic “letter of Abgarus/Agbarus/Augurus etc” as pointed (and proved IMHO) by Eisenman seems to predate the gospel life of Jesus entirely- further more he insinuates, but does not directly say, it could be 20bc or even before.

So the existence of a Hebrew Matthew/ Eban Bohar/Gospel of the Ebionites would seem to point, because I would assume it under these circumstances to have been authored by Helen’s (or Miriam’s) murdered sons or one of the other Maccabean or Arsacid high priests –because of the thread which connects Helen with the latter ebionites (essenes), would point to Mattithias (father of Judas Maccabee, and hero of the Hanukkah story- note meaning: “rededication”, note parallel with Christmas)
as an archtypical patriarch in our story that we may need to consider.

(I need your help on this Charles, you are far, far better on this than anyone) –

Eisenman pg 18: “Judas (Maccabbee), like Jesus, had four brothers, most, like John, Eleazar, Simon, and Judas himself, with names familiar in New Testament Usage”

So in a nutshell, I’m placing Q or proto-matthew back to an early Herodian time period, and possibly not authored by any of our “usual suspects.” This document was accessed by Paul (in Damascus?).

The revelation:
As I was playing around with an anagram solver, was that “Arsacid” is a very close anagram of “Sidereal”. Helge got me thinking about this when he showed the backwards/forwards equivalence within the Greek/Hebrew holy names. Not to belabor this point, and I’m not saying that’s “the solve”, but it made me think in a different way for a minute. “Sidereal Time” is an astronomical term describing time- specifically the time of a 360 degree circle of the earth as opposed to “Solar Time” i.e.: one revolution of the earth about the sun. Sidereal time is what we astronomers use as our reference time- to denote risings, settings and azimuth.

Since these were the Arsacids who were the exclusive dynastic Parthian lineage, and they were selected by the Magi (who I endeavored to show might not be Jewish at all), Arsacid is now starting to look more like an Archetypical title, rather than a real family in the physical genetic sense!

Kapow! Then it came to me:

Please allow the following straw man (and treat him as such):

There was a very elegant source document outlining the basic gospel typology from an earlier than presumed writer. This writer was either a Maccabee or a Herodian. Perhaps the Mary/Helen nomenclature and correspondences can “prove” this, as I would assume it would have been a temple high priest, for which we have many possibilities and equally as many dead bodies thanks to Herod.

This answers a lot of questions about the Essene Scrolls (i.e.: with the supposed chronology, character archetypes, etc.)

Archetypical Jesus was a composite of characters from the Maccabee Period, such as Honi(the circle drawer)/Onias the Righteous.

The Trinity: The three traditions that emerged from the crossing:

1) The Jamesian. As represented by the Ministry of James, the Ebionite. This remained the core of Rabbinic Judeaism, and later refined and the typology adapted to the core constituency it may have been originally meant for: a basically Islamic audience.
2) The Pauline. As represented by the Gospel Accounts, which were essentially a graft onto existing Pagan traditions, and more a literary/etymological exercise rather than a true political movement. This together with the Herodian formed the basis of the Roman Catholic Church but the two have distinct differences. I suspect the early converts, despite what Paul says or would lead us to believe, were to the:
3) Herodian form. The messianic form (from which Atwill and Eisenman may be completely right in their separate assertions about the true meaning of some of the text) as a distinct entity. Here the “otherworldy” is reality, and is the synthesis of the two prior forms. The beginning of the Grail/Arthurian/Fisher King mythology.

Thesis Works- the Straight Path James
Antithesis Faith- John 3-16 Paul
Synthesis Sacrifice/bondage-the Piscean Myth

“blessed though bound. Binding their great enemy Cetus, the sea monster. The Redeemed in their bondage and affliction. Their Redeemer coming to rule”

Their power as archetypes is what allowed them to survive. Note the Sea monster image re John- Revelations, a presumably eastern text.

Before I start any Typology, I could use some help (and perhaps medication), about whether any of this really helps, or is even on topic.

Is this really a different path to get to where Charles would like to go with his identifications, or have I deceived myself?

E pluribus, Unum!


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