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Pamphilus, From the etymology site;

"small, unbound treatise," 1387, from Anglo-Latin panfletus, popular short form of "Pamphilus, seu de Amore" ("Pamphilus, or about Love"), a short L. love poem of 12c., popular and widely copied in Middle Ages; the name from Gk. pamphilos "loved by all," from pan- "all" + philos "loving, dear." Meaning "brief work dealing with questions of current interest" is late 16c. Pamphleteer (n.) is first recorded 1642. "

So, with all we saw in my other post, we find out that Pamphilus, is made up of the word "pan", which here equals "all"!, and "philos", meaning "loving, or dear!" Of course no mention is made of the god Pan! Why not?

Easily the word could be spelled Panphiluis, or as the Anglo-Latin form that is shown "panfletus"! Could not the Anglo-Latin word also mean "pan the fleeting?", or something similar?, since Pan had the body or head of a goat, and was known for his loving? ways! But it of course more easily mean Pan-god of lust + loving? Or more simply "the love of lust", like a goat mating? But, not suprisingly, no relationship like this is made.

And, while discussing a old map reportedly dated 1520, I wrote this;

"Please note that the area we would refer to today as Asia Minor/Turkey
is covered by the word "Pamphilis!" Why would this occur? I have never
heard of this area referred to this way, have you?"

Well, if we follow the accepted meaning then the area could also be called "All Loving!" The greater part of Asia Minor called "All Loving?", does this make any sense to you? But if you used the word to mean "about love", or the land of the "pamphlets of Love", or something to that effect, then there may be a possible connection? Remember this was a 13th century word, that meant, a "short love poem!"! And, excepting the metre, this might be another term for sonnet?

But, is there any indication that any part of Asia Minor was famous for its short love poems? If not, just why did a 1520 era map have this name? So could the name be given because the "father of the Bible", called "Pamphilus", and more commonly "Eusebius Pamphili, lived there? He reportedly lived between 260 and 341 CE! NO, because we have already been told that he lived in Palestine! Oh, by the way, Eusebius, the father of the history of the Church, was not the first to carry this name of "all loving", his predecessor, who died a martyr of the Church and was the teacher of Eusebius! But he is also an unlikely candidate, isn't he?

So, what are we left with?

It appears that if a man could be involved in this naming, then all we are left with is the Pope Innocent X! And what do we know about him?

From Wikipedia;

"Innocent X born Giovanni Battista Pamphili (May 6, 1574 January 5, 1655) was Pope from 1644 to 1655. Born in Rome of a family from Gubbio in Umbria who had come to Rome during the pontificate of Innocent VIII, he graduated from the Collegio Romano and followed a conventional cursus honorum, following his uncle Girolamo Pamphili as auditor of the Rota, and like him, attaining the dignity of cardinal, in 1629. Trained as a lawyer, a member of the congregations of the Council of Trent and the Roman Inquisition, he succeeded Urban VIII on September 15, 1644, as one of the most politically shrewd pontiffs of the era, who much increased the temporal power of the Vatican."

Well, since he was born in 1574 CE, this about puts him out of the running by a long way since he was not the Pope until 1644CE! All way out dates for a map dated to around 1520 CE! So, is the area at all named after a person? Or does it just mean the "all loving" land?

Probably not! You see, Pope Innocent X, was a member of the famous and rich Pamphili family which came to Rome during the papacy of Innocent VII. Wikipedia has this to say about him;

"Innocent VIII, n Giovanni Battista Cibo (1432 July 25, 1492), pope from 1484 to 1492, was born at Genoa, and was the son of Aran Cibo who under Calixtus III had been a senator at Rome. His early years were spent at the Neapolitan court, and subsequently he went to Padua and Rome for his education. In Rome he became a priest in the retinue of cardinal Calandnini, half-brother to Nicholas V; the influence of his friends procured for him, from Paul II the bishopric of Savona, and in 1473, with the support of Giuliano Della Rovere, he was made cardinal by Sixtus IV, whom he succeeded on August 29, 1484.

The conclave was riven with faction, while gangs rioted in the streets.

Shortly after his coronation he addressed a fruitless summons to Christendom to unite in a crusade against the infidels; the amount of his own zeal may in some degree be estimated from the fact that in 1489, in consideration of a yearly sum of 40,000 ducats and a gift of the spearhead which had pierced the side of Jesus, he consented to favour Bayezid II by detaining the sultan's fugitive brother in close confinement in the Vatican.

Innocent, in his papal bull Summis desiderantes (5 December 1484) instigated very severe measures against magicians and witches in Germany; the principles enunciated by him were afterwards embodied in the Malleus Maleficarum (1487). It was also he who in 1487 appointed Tomas de Torquemada to be grand inquisitor of Spain -- he was a strong supporter of the Spanish Inquisition; he also urged a crusade against the Waldensians, offering plenary indulgence to all who should engage in it. In 1486, he prohibited, on pain of severe ecclesiastical censures, the reading of the nine hundred propositions of Pico Mirandola.

An important event of his pontificate was the fall of Granada in January 1492, which was celebrated in the Vatican with great rejoicings. The pope was sent a hundred fine Moorish slaves, whom he distributed among the Curia and to friends, and granted Ferdinand V of Aragon the epithet "Catholic Majesty."

He died July 25, 1492, leaving behind him numerous children (Octo Nocens pueros genuit, totidemque puellas; Hunc merito poterit dicere Roma patrem - "Eight wicked boys born, and just as many girls, so this man could be entitled to be called Father of Rome"), towards whom his nepotism had been as lavish as it was shameless. Savonarola chastised him for his worldly ambitions. The unsympathetic chronicler Stefano Infessura provides many lively details, among them the apparent attempt to revive Innocent on his deathbed by blood transfusions."

Well we can see from the above that Innocent was not very innocent! But, it appears that he died during some very exciting times, that is 1492, a year that was supposed to be the "last days", the retaking of Grenada by Christian Spain, and the discovery of the New World! But, is there anything in his life that one might name a portion of Asia Minor for? I don't particularly think so, do you?

What then are we left with? Well, we still have the famous/infamous? Pamphili Family in Rome!

The Wikipedia Encyclopedia says this in part about this family;

"The Pamphili (often with the final long i orthography, Pamphilj) are one of the Papal families deeply entrenched in Roman politics of the 16th and 17th centuries." So, we know that this family was "entrenched in Roman politics" in the years around 1520 CE! But is this a reason to name a portion of Asia Minor for them? Again, probably not!

Interestingly, Suleiman the Magnificent began his reign over the Ottoman Turks in 1520 CE. Could it be called Pamphilis after him? Was he "all loving"? After all, Asia Minor was ruled by him or his father when this map was supposedly made! This is, of course a possibility! Perhaps the short love poems were written by or for him? Remember I have at times compared him to Solomon! And who can forget the powerful and short love stories that were supposedly written by him? Were they the Songs of Solomon or the Panfletus/Pamphilus of Suleiman?

So, I hope you see the direction I am going?

In the earlier posts there is the mention of the Piso family as being the authors of the Bible, and then there is the man Eusebius Panphili, and he is called "the father of the Bible!"

And then there was "Innocent X born Giovanni Battista Pamphili (May 6, 1574 January 5, 1655) was Pope from 1644 to 1655.", who sat at the council of Trent! And then we find out that his full name was ""Innocent VIII, n Giovanni Battista Cibo (1432 July 25, 1492), pope from 1484 to 1492, was born at Genoa, and was the son of Aran Cibo who under Calixtus III had been a senator at Rome." So now we have the famous "Cibo!", which is certainly similar in style as that of "Piso!"

The above was a post of mine from another site.

Ron

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