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Re: Herodian Typecasting, Part 3
In Response To: Herodian Typecasting, Part 3 ()

Since we are into Herod's time and the end of the Greek world, just what would be the relationship of Rome, and Roman gods, to the early Christians?

While doing a little word disection, and studying Greco/Roman gods, I wrote the following that was first posted at another site;

"The 'personal' history of Priapus represents him as the son of Dionysus and Aphrodite. It is said that Aphrodite, who was in love with Dionysus, went to meet him on his return from India, but soon abandoning him, made for Lampsacus, and there gave birth to her child by the god. Hera, who was dissatisfied with her conduct, caused her to bear a babe of extreme ugliness, who was presently named Priapus.

The earliest Greek poets, as Homer and Hesiod, do not mention this divinity, and it was only in later times that he was honoured with divine worship. He was adored more especially at Lampsacus on the Hellespont, whence he is sometimes called Hellespondiacus.[2]

By some writers Priapus is said to have been the son of Dionysus (Jesus?, Caesar?) and a nymph (temple prostitute?) called Chione. He was regarded as the promoter of fertility both in vegetation and in all animals connected with an agricultural life, and in this capacity he was addressed as the protector of sheep and goats, of bees!, of the vine, of all garden produce and even of fishing."

Here we see Priapus, which is a word I wish some of our experts on this list would dissect, is said to be the son of Dionysus and Aphrodite, which makes him, if we follow other connections, a certainly interesting topic. The mention of India, certainly follows some peoples version of the life of Jesus before he and or his mother returned to Israel! (of course "apus" is markedly related to "apres"!)

Remember this family reporedly disappeared for many years.

I would also like to see a group dissection of Lampascus on the Hellespoint! Could there be some relationship to Patmos?

It is interesting that the baby Priapus was very ugly! Some experts also believe Jesus had a relationship with a woman who may be regarded as a nymph!, or prostitute! Priapus was a protector of sheep, bees and fishing, which are all things related to Jesus!"

At another point I tried to get the group to look closer at Lampascus, as I was also discussing the life of John/Joan/Mary, and Patmos!

But this post is just to mention a possible meaning for the area where the Apostle John supposedly lived in exile and where he wrote the Apoclypse! I thus propose relationships to those words found in my subject heading. To make it simple I propose that Lampascus, means simply "the Passover Lamb", and the other references then support other related points. Get your dictionaries out and see what you think!

In S. America there is a company known as Pascua-Lama! Pascua is Spanish for Easter! Lama is another spelling of Llama, which probably received its name because it served the same purpose (producer of wool) in S. America as the lamb did in Europe. Thus Pascua-Lama probably means Easter Lamb!

The Paschal Lamb!

"A lamb which the Israelites were commanded to eat with peculiar rites as a part of the Passover celebration."

"An ancient symbol of Christ represented as the lamb of sacrifice whose blood redeemed all people. This symbol is seen most often at Easter time, although it is an appropriate symbol through the year. The image is taken from the Book of Revelation, "Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power and riches, wisdom and strength, honor and glory and praise!" (Rev. 5:12)"

Note, that on most of the paintings of the Last Supper, the head of a lamb is shown on a platter on the table! Christ was "the lamb of God!"

Pasch, is the Hebrew word for Passover!

Pasha means; "Pasha (or pascha, bashaw; Turkish: pasa) was a high rank in the Ottoman Empire political system, typically granted to governors and generals. As an honorary title, Pasha equates to Sir."

Adult male lambs or goats can be referred to as Rams! Rams are known for their violent fights. A fighting knight could be compared to a Ram! Thus;

"The sultan of Turkey and (by delegation) the khedive of Egypt had the right to bestow the title of Pasha. The title appears, originally, to have applied exclusively to military commanders, but subsequently it could distinguish any high official, and also unofficial persons whom their superiors desired to honour.

Pashas ranked above beys, but below khedives and viziers. Pashas governed territories called pashaluks or eyalets. The word pasbalik designates a province governed by or under the jurisdiction of a pasha.

Ottoman authorities conferred the title upon both Muslims and Christian without distinction, and frequently gave it to foreigners in the service of the Turks or of the Egyptians.

Three grades of pasha existed, distinguished by the number of horse-tails (three, two and one respectively) to which the bearer was entitled to display as symbols of authority when on campaign."

So, we may ask, why were "horse-tails" used as a symbol of the Pasha's authority?

Well, if you know a good deal about the Medieval Knights, you may know that the horses used to carry these knights into battle were a special breed.
They were bred from animals that are basically the same as the large horse breeds known to us today as Clydesdales! It seems smaller horses just could not bear up to the weight of the Knight's armour, and the armour for the horse itself.

Second, even today these large and heavy draft animals mostly have their tails bobbed. Certainly in battle a horse with a long tail, could become a hinderance so I assume the fashion of bobbing the tails began because of warfare.

It is also known that knights had to supply their own chargers. One horse just could not support a knight for long, so knights brought along with their entourage, three or more horses sometimes 20 or more! Since the tails were bobbed, then they would be readily available for use as symbols of the power of the knight! Possibly the tails were symbols of ten, that is, if you could supply ten mounted knights, you would carry one tail, if twenty you would carry two tails, etc. Possibly they stood for the number of horses you had availabe in tens or hundreds?

The genteel knights had two sides, as defenders of men, and the gallantry of the codes supposedly enforced upon them, they were as meek as lambs, when needs be, and as mighty as lions when needs be! Thus a "lamb sleeping with a lion!! "Winter comes in like a lamb and goes out like a lion", etc.

Lampacus, thus equals "the Lamb of Easter!"

But what of Priapus?

Regards,

Ron