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Watchers and astronomers
In Response To: Consuming Fire ()

If the ancient Egyptians were using telescopes, then is it possible that the "watchers" refered to in the Dead Sea Scrolls could be references to the Egyptians?

Here is some evidence:

From "The Dead Sea Scrolls in English" by Geza Vermes (Penguin 4th edition: page 292) - the scroll labelled 1QapGen and called the "Genesis Apocryphon" has Lamech son of Methuselah saying, regarding his pregnant wife Bathenosh (translates as "daughter of mortal man"?):

"... Behold, I thought then within my heart that conception was (due) to the Watchers and the Holy Ones ... and to the Giants ..."

Could the "Holy Ones" be a further reference to Egyptian royalty and the "Giants" be the huge statues that were prominent in Egypt?

Incidentally, Genesis 4:19 names Lamech's two wives - Adah and Zillah.

And in Genesis 4:23 Lamech says to his wives "I will kill a man for wounding me" (NIV alternative interpretation).

I guess that Lamech is intent on revenge because he believes that one or other of his wives is pregnant to a Watcher, a Holy One or a Giant. The Old Testament does not make it clear why Lamech is intent on revenge but the Dead Sea scroll enables an explanation.

Furthermore, the numerous Egyptian references and symbols related to eyes and falcons could lead to the Egyptians being called "watchers".

And to add to the picture, this Dead Sea scroll quotation suggests that Watchers, Holy Ones and Giants are identical entities and I suspect that the "sons of the gods" in Genesis 6 is another alternative description.

Could it also be interpreted that the beni elohim of Genesis means children of the (Egyptian) stars and rather than being from the stars or gods they are those that watch the stars or gods? Hence the sons of the gods are Egyptian royalty.