Re: Persia 30: Pericles and the Amarna Revival

Hi Ron,

"I would just like to ask just how you and thousands of other students of history really think that Egypt (where we now think it exists) ever became or was "the bread basket" of Europe or Greece or Italy!"

Egypt was the breadbasket for the city of Athens and the city of Rome. When these ancient cities became too large, the countryside could no longer feed everybody. So in order to hold onto power the elites brought in grain from elsewhere to buy off (bread and circuses) the masses.

"Common sense tells us that only one place in this so called ancient world was "the bread basket of" anyplace? This would be the area of Europe most suited to agriculture, a place of broad plains suitable for the growing of wheat (the corn of ancient Rome)!"

Ancient Greece traded but never controlled these Scythian/Goth controlled areas. Remember the Celts invaded Greece and Rome. The Celts conquered Delphi and were ravaging Turkey. Greece never conquered these ares and the Romans had a hard time just controlling Germany. So they couldn't get grain from these areas at the period Charles is talking about.