2012: Science or Superstition by Alexandra Bruce

[Chuck-Star]

Just bought a really good 2012 book.  Here's the web site:

http://www.2012dvd.com/

Great links page, including a huge 2012 forum and another with Jesse Ventura's 2012 episode:

http://www.2012dvd.com/more.html

Jesse Ventura on 2012:

http://2012news.com/?p=301

[Chuck-Star]

Alexandra Bruce's book has a "Table of Holocene Impacts" (p 119)

A cluster of impacts stand out around 3,000 BC.

3123 BC Kofels (Austria) 4 km crater

<3000 BC Umm al Binni (Iraq) 3.5 km crater
<3000 BC Luna (India) 2.15 km crater
<3000 BC Burckle (Indian Ocean) 29 km crater

We've discussed the Kofels and Iraq craters.  I was unaware of the other two.  The Burckle impact crater is especially unusual, not only due to its size but its location at over 12,000 feet under the ocean!  It is thought to have generated tsunamis 600 feet high that swamped Madagascar, southern India, and the Western part of Australia.  It also likely led to torrential rains and flooding world-wide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burckle_Crater
http://archaeology.about.com/od/climatechange/a/masse_king_4.htm
http://archaeology.about.com/od/climatechange/a/masse_king.htm

It isn't clear whether these are all separate events are whether at least some of them happened in concert.  It also isn't clear what effect this water impact had on ice-core and tree-ring evidence.

[Chuck-Star]

Something else strikes me as odd about the "Table of Holocene Impacts".  No impacts are associated with the dates of 1159 BC, 4400 BC, 7553 BC.

The event that triggered the Younger Dryas Period is not known with certainty to have been an impact or air explosion.

So, if the "Age Ending" events at intervals of 13 Venus Cycles are not caused by impacts, what else could it be?

[Chuck-Star]

There was a "Great Flood" event associated with the cataclysm of 1159 BC, but THAT flood was not cause by an impact (at least not directly).  Instead, the eruption of Thera and collapse of its caldera led to a massive tsunami that devastated Greece and the Eastern Mediterranean shores.  

The greatest disaster thus far during the current 13th Venus Cycle transit period has been the Asian ("Great Sumatra") earthquake and tsunami that killed over 300,000 people.  That certainly wasn't trivial, and obviously would have been far more devastating if the San Andreas Fault had suffered an earthquake of that magnitude and triggered a large volcanic eruption in the Western USA.  The Asian earthquake did apparently trigger some volcanic activity (such as at Talang in Indonesia), but nothing as powerful as Thera.

Interestingly enough, the last significant eruption at Yellowstone was roughly around 1050 BC, and there has been just recently a "swarm" of small earthquakes there.  Pinatubo in the Philippines also erupted around 1050 BC.

http://volcanolive.blogspot.com/2005_07_01_archive.html
http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/supervolcano/others/others.html
http://www.scenta.co.uk/nature/volcanoes/volcanoes_worldwide.cfm
http://www.volcanolive.com/volcanolive.html

[bdw000]

Hey Charles, this is bdw from long ago.

Anyway, have you ever checked out the www.thunderbolts.info website?

Well worth checking out, they claim that electricity/magnetism is ignored way too much in astronomy.  One of their main claims is that "impacts" are NOT from meteors, but are actually huge (and obviously, really, really huge) lightning strikes between planetary bodies.  They make a very convincing case that the grand canyon is a lightning strike, as well as the big canyon on Mars.

These guys are not kooks, and some of them specialize in ancient mythology being inspired by astronomical "events" that were seen in the sky just a few thousand years ago.

Just a suggestion.  I have no way of knowing if you would like any of this stuff.

Check out this Grand Canyon article if you feel inclined: (Wal Thornhill has his own webpage)

http://www.holoscience.com/views/view_mars.htm

A picture is worth a thousand words.

[Chuck-Star]

Hi Bruce, a.k.a., "Agent 000".  Yes, an envoy of the Electric Universe did zap us over at the old forum.  There is a thread related to it.  I went over to their site and did a search on 2012.  There are a few discussions on that forum.  They obviously find the Venus transits of interest!